#milestone-modding | Logs for 2011-12-06

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[08:06:41] <TPoint75_> Hey, why does the log-bot not work?
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[11:27:08] <tiger2wander> hi there
[11:27:32] <tiger2wander> Any news about unlock bootloader for Motorola Milestone?
[11:27:51] <k1l> tiger2wander: should there e any news?
[11:28:18] <k1l> *be
[11:29:06] <k1l> afaik there are no serious attemp. and moto wont give the key
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[11:36:03] <tiger2wander> it is sad :(
[11:36:39] <tiger2wander> I have a motoroi xt720, nice phone but locked = zer0
[11:37:41] <tiger2wander> I reading about 2ndboot, How I can make it work on my Motoroi XT720?
[11:39:11] <k1l> tiger2wander: for cracking the key you need alot of cpu power for a bruteforce. there was a attempt but it go cheated by some polish guys. the other thing was some were hoping moto would give us the key after 2 years. but that is not gonna happen
[11:40:06] <tiger2wander> yes, I was hope so, but nothing happen when time come :(
[11:40:08] <tiger2wander> Do you know this http://goo.gl/DQI8e ?
[11:41:19] <tiger2wander> if we can load Moto's bootloader on emulator then hook it with some electric fault, then we can crack it :)
[11:43:04] <tiger2wander> because of you will never get encrypted bootloader with 1024 RSA key cracked with single CPU even it is super fast
[11:43:45] <tiger2wander> it is impossible, except you can use Bot Net or something like super computer
[11:44:50] <k1l> there was boinc project, but it got cheated
[11:45:43] <k1l> http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=932 what about that for you?
[12:07:03] <tiger2wander> k1l, that is link to Milestone XT720 Android Development thread and I don't see any new there
[12:08:13] <k1l> 2nd boot wasnt worked any further because you cant initialize the radio twice.
[12:08:18] <k1l> afaik
[12:10:11] <tiger2wander> Yes, I'm curious also, I was think that bootloader load kernel & init ramfs already then it impossible to load another at that time
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[14:06:33] <xvilka> oh
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[14:08:43] <xvilka> .t
[14:08:43] <motobot> Tue, 06 Dec 2011 13:08:42 GMT
[14:39:31] <xvilka> nice news http://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-seeks-widen-exemptions-won-last-dmca-rulemaking\
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[16:38:05] <KabaLF> hm, logger bot is out?
[16:38:55] <KabaLF> yep, seems so, again... :-\
[16:49:15] <TPoint75_> http://www.damogran.de/milestone-modding/2011/
[16:50:10] <TPoint75_> this one is still working!
[16:51:50] <KabaLF> hm, there's also this now: http://mmlogs.doshaska.net/%23milestone-modding/index.html
[16:52:22] <KabaLF> from nadlabak's, it seems
[16:52:59] <TPoint75_> nice thx!
[16:56:24] <TPoint75_> hey nadlabak: do you have any news about ics on milestone? (have you found time to try something and have you got your development milestone?)
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[17:19:10] <xvilka> KabaLF: it is here
[17:19:19] <xvilka> .t
[17:19:20] <motobot> Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:19:18 GMT
[17:22:10] <xvilka> logs are here: http://logs.droid-developers.org
[17:22:45] <KabaLF> nice
[17:22:55] <KabaLF> woa, 2 months worth of logs in a txt... :-P
[17:23:41] <xvilka> there is xml version too :)
[17:26:00] <KabaLF> but is that acummulative (all log since the bot started logging), or is it a tail of the last X lines?
[17:27:50] <xvilka> accumulative
[17:28:24] <xvilka> i can split it though
[17:28:36] <KabaLF> I think it would be better
[17:28:43] <xvilka> hm. nice idea - download previous logs and place them here
[17:29:58] <KabaLF> that's a monster to browse, because you have to wait for it all to load since the newest entries are at the end
[17:30:12] <KabaLF> and ocasionally I do it on the phone, so it's all the worse
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[21:19:06] <Titan21> Good evening :) Hey, im having problems buying anything from the android market lately, always says "device incompatible" Anyone else experiencing those problems?
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[21:38:03] <nadlabak> Titan21: hi, have you tweaked your dpi setting?
[21:39:15] <nadlabak> Titan21: if yes, set lcd density property back to 240
[21:41:47] <Titan21> thanks, already got that answer in the #CM-channel :)
[21:41:51] <Titan21> That did the drick
[21:42:21] <Titan21> but.. there were version of the {market,rom} where it used to work with tweaked dpi settings...
[21:44:39] <nadlabak> Titan21: It's certainly not a ROM issue
[21:44:57] <Titan21> alright, might have been one of the market updates
[21:45:18] <nadlabak> Titan21: And I'm not sure if it is really Vending.apk issue
[21:46:24] <nadlabak> It may also be some change in the way how the market (on google servers) works
[21:49:40] <Titan21> mh, alright
[21:50:00] <Titan21> hey, between just us two. How long till you drop support for MS1 because you get your next device?
[21:50:49] <TheSpiritof69> "Hey, just between the two of us on the internet" :P
[21:56:47] <nadlabak> :) all I can say is that the phone I'd want as a Milestone replacement is nowhere to be seen yet
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[21:58:43] <Skrilax_CZ> I hope that there will be MS4 here in EU
[21:59:22] <TheSpiritof69> Yeah
[21:59:53] <Skrilax_CZ> as I'm going to get that one, regardless of the bootloader status
[22:00:21] <TheSpiritof69> Unlocked bootloader would be just the last plus :3
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[22:05:25] <Titan21> Im torn between KalEl and something with HW-keyboard
[22:07:02] <Skrilax_CZ> people around Motorola RAZR said that Motorola officially said that they will unlock BL with ICS update for international ones
[22:07:38] <Titan21> sources?
[22:08:33] <Titan21> http://ausdroid.net/2011/10/21/motorola-razr-to-be-unlockable/
[22:08:38] <Titan21> thats the one i know of
[22:09:28] <Skrilax_CZ> yeah, well it was in PM
[22:09:31] <Skrilax_CZ> w/o link
[22:09:34] <Skrilax_CZ> from kholk
[22:10:08] <Skrilax_CZ> in any case I asked him to dump mbm and mbmloader
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[22:29:56] <[mbm]> moto has said several times they'd unlock the bootloader .. I can't remember any time that they've actually done it
[22:30:22] <TheSpiritof69> Atrix?
[22:30:59] <[mbm]> iirc, that one was leaked and not an official unlock
[22:31:49] <k1l_> atrix was official but postponed after that got leaked
[22:32:21] <TheSpiritof69> Though it was only in US?
[22:33:00] <k1l_> afaik the made it official (for the us) after the leak
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[22:43:00] <nadlabak> moto said that they'll _start_ their unlocks with updates released by the end of 2011 (where the operator permits and other bla bla), so they have plenty of time and possible excuses ;)
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[22:44:55] <k1l_> for me that was just PR blabla
[22:45:21] <k1l_> after the moto guy's youtube comment that wasnt that clever
[22:54:50] <nadlabak> anyway, I ordered my Milestone exactly two years ago, believing that I can compile and run my own kernel and system on it the same way as it was possible for the US Droid brother device
[22:55:11] <nadlabak> I learned my lesson :)
[22:55:45] <k1l_> yep
[22:56:24] <nadlabak> I'll make sure that the next device I'll buy will really allow me to do that :)
[22:57:12] <k1l_> i wont trust a "maybe we will unlock it"
[23:10:00] <Skrilax_CZ> won't trust that either, but in the end it doesn't make much difference on the MS (also due to comfort of having vulnerable recovery(
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[23:11:19] <mioze7ae> Some people in China somehow cobbled together a custom sbf for XT720 with a vunlerable recovery.
[23:12:06] <mioze7ae> It uses the regular boot.img but somehow when it boots the orientation sensor swaps X and Y. Otherwise it's great ;)
[23:12:59] <mioze7ae> It won't boot after flashing though, you must go into recovery -> openrecovery and nandroid
[23:13:26] <mioze7ae> It's nice not having to sbf anymore ;)
[23:13:59] <Skrilax_CZ> mioze7ae: do you have a link to the file?
[23:14:10] <Skrilax_CZ> btw. kholk dumped motorola RAZR bootloder: http://www.eternityproject.eu/downloads/mtspyder/razrbl.tar.bz2
[23:14:13] * [mbm] has a bionic; hoping that kexec will work
[23:14:26] <mioze7ae> http://www.multiupload.com/4I3FIFTD68
[23:14:49] <[mbm]> if I can load a new kernel via kexec then the locked bootloader won't really matter
[23:17:19] <Skrilax_CZ> yeah
[23:17:23] <nadlabak> [mbm]: no worries about the BP state after kexec?
[23:17:51] <[mbm]> nadlabak: we'll see
[23:17:56] <nadlabak> :)
[23:18:11] <[mbm]> noticed when I was reading through code that 2ndboot didn't actually shut down the bp
[23:19:04] <mioze7ae> Skrilax_CZ: Here's where I learned about it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18912558#post18912558
[23:20:46] <mioze7ae> it continues mixed up with other stuff for the next few pages
[23:21:18] <Skrilax_CZ> thanks
[23:23:14] <Skrilax_CZ> well as far as I know the BP is entirely different on current phones
[23:23:30] <Skrilax_CZ> and the problem was that no info about Wrigley 3G could be found
[23:25:58] <nadlabak> afaik, how to shutdown or reset the BP while the AP is running was the main 2nd-boot issue on
[23:26:13] <nadlabak> milestone
[23:26:21] <Skrilax_CZ> yeah, well not shutdown, but reinitialization
[23:26:26] <Skrilax_CZ> and lack of documentation
[23:27:48] <mioze7ae> Does airplane mode shut it down?
[23:31:18] <Skrilax_CZ> nope
[23:39:16] <Skrilax_CZ> mioze7ae: so there is a glitch in sbf flashing, that if you use same signature for your system partition as is stored in sp it won't do the signature check upon next boot?
[23:42:49] <mioze7ae> No, that doesn't work on XT720. Supposedly that works on Defy.
[23:44:26] <Skrilax_CZ> aha
[23:44:29] <Skrilax_CZ> lol
[23:44:29] <mioze7ae> Unless I'm misunderstanding. I flashed from the stock milestone sbf with different partition structure
[23:45:00] <Skrilax_CZ> korean phones use different partition structure yes (lower system, lower cache, big data)
[23:45:20] <Skrilax_CZ> there is some Motorola RAZR version with OMAP4460???
[23:50:31] <mioze7ae> The sbf seems to be based on STSKT_N_79.22.44R but I've never been able to find that one. I can only find 33R and 50R
[23:56:56] <Skrilax_CZ> well RAZR mbm has the legal notice for unlocking / relocking in it