#milestone-modding | Logs for 2011-12-22

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[00:03:28] <Skrilax_CZ> not in EU
[00:16:47] <nadlabak> I'm still very happy with M1. Interested in possible M4, yes, but in no hurry for upgrade yet.
[00:18:03] <ixc> im happy too, only problem the memory :)
[00:18:32] <ixc> (its no problem, just gc always free everything:D)
[00:24:55] <nadlabak> It looks like the today's update of mapy.cz app fixed array out of bounds during glDrawArrays after orientation change that was occasionally causing seg fault in pvr egl lib
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[00:26:42] <Skrilax_CZ> Yeah I still like my MS1 too, just hoping for MS4 (or heard smth like Razr Maxx) ... just a bit frustrated to see the lack of decent qwerty phones in EU
[00:27:55] <nadlabak> as I planned to look into that gl issue, I'm happy that I don't have to bother myself with it any more ;)
[00:28:04] <Skrilax_CZ> hehe
[00:33:24] <nadlabak> btw., google regards 512MB RAM Nexus S as 'memory constrained device' when it comes to ICS... there's really not much chance for really useful ICS build running on Milestone
[00:34:47] <zewelor> i think i will wait for milestone 6 with 2gb of ram
[00:34:58] <zewelor> i hope it will be ok for year or two
[00:36:42] <pontomedon> lol nadlabak
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[00:45:13] <Skrilax_CZ> nadlabak: yeah that's the marketing strategy, so ppl buy new phones
[00:51:17] <nadlabak> Skilax_CZ: yep, it's old but fruitful, it drives the PC market for years already...
[00:52:26] <Hoernchen> i have no idea what drives the pc market, certainly not games, thanks to consoles
[00:52:43] <Skrilax_CZ> nadlabak: not actually sure about PC market in general, perhaps things like GPU cards
[00:54:52] <nadlabak> every new OS release demands more RAM, be it OS X or Windows...
[00:57:14] <Skrilax_CZ> that's true, but Win XP need 64 MB RAM for operation for instance, otherwise nobody would buy it if it was on the loose like Android
[00:58:32] <nadlabak> you can't buy XP today any more ;)
[00:59:25] <Skrilax_CZ> I know I just wanted to say that for the contrast ...
[01:00:19] <Skrilax_CZ> the main problem of this strategy on Android is that the OS is "filled with all the fancy functions", but they won't make them all properly (as it would take more time to develop them), so things like RAM requirements escalate rapidly, which nicely serves all HW manufacturers ._.
[01:00:47] <Hoernchen> the main problem of android is java
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[06:43:44] <vikas> right now, the "latest" phone with qwerty kbd is the Xperia Pro.. But I do see a lot of Samsung phones on the US websites (maybe they're all CDMA phones that sammy's not interested in selling in EU/Asia?
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[12:56:26] <nadlabak> Quarx: hi, what was the reason for this patch? https://github.com/Quarx2k/proprietary_vendor_motorola/commit/d51de64058a13594c1fc21e7427a49dd7685dbcc
[12:57:21] <nadlabak> isn't adding mot_pwric group to cpcap devices in uventd.rc enough?
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[13:52:13] <Quarx> nadlabak: we fully removed moto permissions.
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[15:27:50] <Bavilo> what do you mean Quarx?
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[15:49:44] <Quarx> Bavilo: mot_**** has been removed from *.rc
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[15:56:47] <nadlabak> Bavilo: Motorola specific UIDs not used any more in custom builds for Defy - if you were thinking about some bootloader security breakthrough, stay calm ;)
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[16:23:28] <Bavilo> ah ok =P
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