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[07:42:48] <vikas> i think the logbot is not running
[07:47:48] <vikas> anybody tried building ICS on a netbook? :)
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[08:05:20] <nothize> .t
[08:05:31] <nothize> vikas that'd be awkful
[08:13:22] <vikas> I see that it logged "Disconnected" for 10th Jan
[08:13:26] <vikas> and there's no log after that
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[09:18:12] <KabaLF> vikas: check pvt
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[09:21:46] <nothize> KabaLF: i want too!!
[09:22:23] <KabaLF> what? :-)
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[11:27:08] <ixc> i think i have some problem with my milestone's jack :(
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[11:34:57] <fjfalcon> nadlabak: what your current vm.heap size?
[11:35:06] <fjfalcon> for cm7 and for ics
[11:36:48] <nadlabak> fjfalcon: for GB 24MB, for ICS 30MB
[11:38:44] <nadlabak> I wanted to use 28MB for ICS, but it's not enough for some apps in some rare cases
[12:06:34] <fjfalcon> nadlabak: thanks, i just tryed to use 48, and phone works fine..
[12:06:38] <fjfalcon> on gb
[12:07:43] <nadlabak> fjfalcon: you're wasting your RAM
[12:09:04] <nadlabak> bigger heap size means less garbage collector calls
[12:10:04] <nadlabak> RAM is freed by garbage collector
[12:12:13] <nadlabak> bigger heap size can give you slightly better performance as less CPU is used by GC, but on RAM limited device it's not worth it at all
[12:15:58] <nadlabak> giving up RAM for a bit of performance on 256MB hdpi device is just stupid :)
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[12:50:40] <Quarx> nadlabak: on defy we use 128heap:D i should decrease value.
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[13:46:25] <mmodder> these logs still work http://mmlogs.doshaska.net/
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[14:52:59] <Skrilax_CZ> vikas: what? ICS on netbook? for god's sake, why?
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[16:10:40] <xvilka> argh. got nook tablet. TI OMAP too :)
[16:11:31] <TheSpiritof69> IT Do's and don'ts: Never forget to append "/dev/null 2>&1" to a cronjob which is executed every 10 minutes
[16:11:39] <TheSpiritof69> *self-facepalm*
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[16:32:30] <pontomedon> well now you have to empty your mailbox every day :)
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[16:48:29] <TheSpiritof69> Nah, disabled notification for that job :P
[16:48:36] <mib_force> xvilka: do we want to archive the xoom sbf's too?
[16:48:47] <mib_force> xvilka: just bought one, there might be a interest for me there :)
[16:48:53] <mib_force> Skrilax_CZ|Away: same question goes to you :)
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[16:54:41] <xvilka> mib_force: i think yes
[16:55:08] <mib_force> good, we need skrilax to gather the files :)
[16:55:52] <mib_force> xvilka: how's development of your hash-collision software going?
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[16:58:36] <mib_force> and i want nadlabak to develop CM9 for XOOM :))
[17:05:07] <TheSpiritof69> And I want money to rain from the skies :P
[17:05:43] <mib_force> needless to say it's fiction :)
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[17:14:51] <vikas`> hey what's gapps zip for ics?
[17:16:50] <vikas`> is it the same as the one for GB?
[17:17:25] <vikas`> just finished building ICS from nadlabak's repo
[17:20:58] <mib_force> vikas`: can u share that build?
[17:21:04] <mib_force> gapps ics are seperated
[17:21:10] <vikas`> sure
[17:21:21] <mib_force> try to browse HO!NO 7.1.3 ics edition for the gapps zip
[17:21:22] <k1l> you need he one gapps ics for old kernel
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[17:22:01] <k1l> gapps-ics-4.0.3-20120103Froyo they re called
[17:22:23] <vikas`> k1l: link?
[17:22:56] <mib_force> vikas`: share link to the build :D
[17:23:59] <k1l> hmm link is in the ics thread on xda (or was it here in backlog?)
[17:24:09] <mib_force> maybe both
[17:24:11] <vikas`> mib_force: i need to first upload it..
[17:25:01] <k1l> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21085608&highlight=gapps#post21085608
[17:25:08] <mib_force> vikas`: do it :)
[17:25:51] <vikas`> low internet bandwidht, will take some time
[17:25:58] <mib_force> :(
[17:25:59] <mib_force> eta?
[17:26:00] <vikas`> i'll post the link once the upload is done
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[17:27:05] <vikas`> k1l: thanks! I'm checking it out
[17:27:11] <mib_force> vikas`: yeah, will leave to the city anyways
[17:27:18] <nadlabak> k1l: there is gapps kernel dependency
[17:28:09] <vikas`> nadlabak: so which one to use?
[17:28:21] <nadlabak> I meant: no kernel dependency :)
[17:28:21] <vikas`> btw, how long did it take to build for you?
[17:28:28] <k1l> the one i named worked here on ics
[17:28:31] <vikas`> nadlabak: heh ok :)
[17:29:26] <vikas`> took bloody 12hrs on my netbook
[17:29:36] <mib_force> lol
[17:29:45] <nadlabak> that package is called froyo because it was meant for defy cm9 build based on froyo kernel (they have two different builds)
[17:29:48] <mib_force> 12hrs - might be an out of date build
[17:29:50] <mib_force> :))
[17:29:55] <vikas`> mib_force: lol
[17:30:33] <vikas`> nadlabak: so I can use the one that you posted for CM7 ?
[17:30:52] <nadlabak> the only froyo-build bit inside is the apn list xml that was missing from that specific cm9 for defy
[17:31:19] <nadlabak> *cm9 build for defy
[17:32:43] <nadlabak> vikas`: you can use any ics 4.0.3 gapps, but beware of the limited free space in system
[17:32:59] <nadlabak> that 'froyo' package is fine :)
[17:32:59] <vikas`> nadlabak: k
[17:33:04] <vikas`> thanks :)
[17:35:21] <k1l> nadlabak: ah, i see. i didnt recognize what exactly did only make the froyo one work. but then it was the space :)
[17:44:42] <nadlabak> I aim at installing gapps to /data/vendor/app, bind mounted to /system/vendor/app (and if there's ext partition, it's moved to /sd-ext/vendor/app) so we don't have to care about the space in system that much in the future
[17:46:05] <vikas`> was that the latest checkin you made to ics?
[17:48:38] <nadlabak> vikas`: part of it, yes
[17:49:07] <vikas`> k
[17:49:22] <vikas`> btw, thanks for the ICS repo work!
[17:49:40] <vikas`> running pretty smooth (at least for now). I'll report back with other results later
[17:51:04] <nadlabak> gapps don't work correctly when they are in /data/app, but vendor/app is fine (if it's added to ANDROID_ASSETS in init.rc)
[17:51:32] <mib_force> nadlabak: what are the main problems for ics to be ready for daily use on the milestone?
[17:51:55] <vikas`> mib_force: camera :)
[17:52:18] <nadlabak> camera, hw video decoding
[17:52:28] <nadlabak> and encoding
[17:52:54] <mib_force> ah ok
[17:54:42] <nadlabak> and missing viber compatible with ics :)
[17:57:50] <vikas`> i don't have to worry about that :)
[17:58:02] <vikas`> I get 250mins free every month, more than enough for my calling needs :)
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[18:13:12] <ynwa> :vikas is your build uploaded yet? :D
[18:14:09] <vikas`> ynwa: 15mins ETA
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[18:15:52] <ynwa> chhheeers will backup :)
[18:16:39] <nadlabak> Quarx: what do you think about the possibility to restore the support for overlay in ics?
[18:18:57] <Quarx> nadlabak: oh..i think full restore support is too hard...
[18:19:11] <Quarx> so many source are changed
[18:20:12] <ynwa> argh my internet is uber slow after they did some work on it on the phone line
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[18:31:34] <vikas`> mib_force: http://www.multiupload.com/S3WJXR05OF
[18:32:02] <vikas`> gapps link : http://www.multiupload.com/61CU8HV2X8
[18:33:58] <nadlabak> Quarx, yep, I see, "remove support for PUSH_BUFFER surfaces and overlays" merged in December 2010... that's too far in history, yes, too many changes since that
[18:35:11] <ynwa> download speeds of 12kb/s fml this will take forever
[18:36:08] <Quarx> nadlabak: for camera.. needs rewrite lib:(
[18:50:31] <vikas`> nadlabak: sd-ext supported on ICS?
[18:50:37] <mib_force> vikas`: thanks
[18:50:45] <vikas`> I still don't have one - but i might need one now...
[18:51:11] <vikas`> mib_force: no problem. Thank nadlabak and others who actually coded the stuff. i just built it :)
[18:51:24] <mib_force> yeah
[18:51:28] <mib_force> that's also a lot of work
[18:51:32] <mib_force> at least in time
[18:57:40] <vikas`> market is so adamant on installing apps that I uninstalled for lack of space...
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[19:14:56] <mib_force> runs pretty fluid
[19:14:59] <mib_force> nice work nadlabak
[19:15:18] <mib_force> for a RC0 of a not released version
[19:15:22] <mib_force> it's too perfect :D
[19:16:44] <mib_force> got 150 MB of free internal storage
[19:16:57] <mib_force> RAM with 58 MB free
[19:17:46] <k1l> why is it that cm devs are holding alphas back even when the basic system runs pretty good theese days? no pun intended, but its the same with the hp touchpad cm guys.
[19:19:02] <ixc> keyboard replaced
[19:19:07] <ixc> i love the new one :D
[19:19:27] <mib_force> yeah
[19:19:31] <mib_force> i like that
[19:22:43] <mib_force> optimizing apps??
[19:22:46] <mib_force> what is that?
[19:24:16] <Luxxi> zipaligned
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[19:24:41] <nadlabak> mib_force: generating dex files to dalvik-cache
[19:25:07] <mib_force> ah ok
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[19:41:39] <Bavilo> why do you guys think of the xoom?
[19:42:23] <Bavilo> not why.....I meant what*
[19:44:10] <zewelor> i think tegra 2 sux
[19:44:17] <zewelor> u managed to run reaver ?
[19:44:40] <Bavilo> oh emm...I posted the error
[19:44:54] <Bavilo> the debian distro doesn't have libpcap libraries installed
[19:44:55] <Bavilo> :(
[19:44:59] <zewelor> so ?!
[19:45:08] <zewelor> just install it :D
[19:45:10] <Bavilo> didn't have time to install them ^^
[19:45:16] <Bavilo> well I can't install them on my g1...
[19:45:25] <Bavilo> and I couldn't chroot it in ubuntu...
[19:45:25] <zewelor> ofc u can
[19:45:31] <zewelor> just not using apt get
[19:45:32] <Bavilo> I know I "CAN"
[19:45:35] <Bavilo> oh...
[19:45:38] <Bavilo> how else?
[19:45:47] <zewelor> just dl it from http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/libpcap-dev
[19:45:57] <Bavilo> meh.
[19:45:58] <Bavilo> lol
[19:46:04] <zewelor> http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/libpcap-dev/download
[19:46:16] <zewelor> copy it to sdcard
[19:46:22] <vikas`> Bavilo: handled a co-worker's xoom. pretty good. But I'd buy something that has 4.0 (asus transformer prime is a good candidate)
[19:46:27] <zewelor> u should have sdcard mounted somewhere inside chrooted debian
[19:46:39] <zewelor> and them install it using dpkg --install
[19:46:49] <Bavilo> I'll try when I have the time
[19:46:54] <Bavilo> and thanks vikas
[19:47:05] <Bavilo> is the xoom unlockable?
[19:47:16] <vikas`> i think there's no lock on it
[19:47:24] <zewelor> inside debian chroot u should have sdcard mounted in /mnt/sdcard
[19:47:35] <zewelor> afaik it has oem unlock
[19:47:36] <Bavilo> ok
[19:47:41] <vikas`> it's supposedly one of google's "Experience" devices -- even there in their dev guide -- called the stingray or some such
[19:48:03] <Bavilo> can you make phone calls on the asus?
[19:48:15] <Bavilo> ok wow...that thing is huge...
[19:48:21] <Bavilo> would look stupid to make calls :D
[19:48:41] <vikas`> :D
[19:49:02] <Bavilo> hmm what about current phones, with qwerty slider?
[19:49:05] <Bavilo> anything good out there?
[19:49:07] <Bavilo> for europe?
[19:49:09] <zewelor> no
[19:49:16] <zewelor> im waiting for milestone 5
[19:49:20] <Bavilo> lol...o.o
[19:49:23] <vikas`> lol
[19:49:23] <Bavilo> MS 5 already?
[19:49:25] <Bavilo> ...
[19:49:27] <zewelor> not yet
[19:49:29] <Bavilo> lol
[19:49:39] <zewelor> but i hope it will be out soon
[19:49:39] <vikas`> xperia pro is the only decent qwerty slider right now -- looks horrible
[19:49:41] <zewelor> with omap 5
[19:49:42] <zewelor> ;P
[19:49:43] <Bavilo> I really need to buy a new phone soon...
[19:50:00] <zewelor> yes Bavilo buy it and give me your g1 then ;P
[19:50:09] <zewelor> good idea
[19:50:21] <Bavilo> sure...
[19:50:22] <Bavilo> :D
[19:50:25] <Bavilo> I don't need it...
[19:50:34] <Bavilo> it looks pretty beaten up though :D
[19:50:41] <Bavilo> my parrot likes chewing on it
[19:50:42] <Bavilo> ^^
[19:51:10] <zewelor> nvm if it boots its ok ;P
[19:51:22] <Bavilo> ^^
[19:51:30] <Bavilo> works fine....you might need a new battery though
[19:51:35] <Bavilo> it likes to drain...for no reason at all :D
[19:51:45] <Bavilo> wow the xperia pro does look crappy....
[19:52:05] <zewelor> i got battery i just dont have working g1 :P
[19:52:24] <Bavilo> hehe
[19:52:26] <zewelor> i dont know what happend to my brothers g1 but it reboots randomly
[19:52:31] <Bavilo> weird
[19:52:36] <zewelor> even in recovery / bootloader
[19:52:42] <zewelor> with clean aosp android 1.1
[19:52:44] <zewelor> lol
[19:52:47] <Bavilo> haha
[19:52:57] <zewelor> it reboots when i do smth
[19:53:02] <zewelor> or whem i dont do anything
[19:53:03] <Bavilo> eww....http://www.areamobile.de/bilder/89506-original
[19:53:17] <zewelor> damn what is it
[19:53:21] <zewelor> 2 screens ?
[19:53:22] <Bavilo> some LG phone.
[19:53:23] <Bavilo> yea
[19:54:37] <zewelor> so anyway i can pay postage for sending me your g1 :D
[19:54:50] <Bavilo> I need a new phone first :D
[19:54:57] <zewelor> so get milestone 4
[19:54:57] <Bavilo> after that, my g1 is all yours ^^
[19:55:05] <zewelor> its not as good as milestone 5
[19:55:10] <Bavilo> haha,...
[19:55:21] <zewelor> but it boots i think
[19:55:31] <Bavilo> I kinda don't ever want to get a motorola again...:D
[19:55:50] <zewelor> but there is nothing else
[19:55:51] <zewelor> :\
[19:55:54] <zewelor> desire z is old
[19:55:58] <Bavilo> it's going to be locked again right?
[19:56:03] <Bavilo> friggen omap...
[19:56:15] <vikas`> Handled a NOkia Lumia 800 couple of days back -- awesome phone. If only it ran android :(
[19:56:22] <Bavilo> well...there's the Mytouch 4g Slide...
[19:56:24] <zewelor> there is no good android phone
[19:56:27] <zewelor> i think android is over
[19:56:28] <zewelor> :(
[19:56:31] <Bavilo> you think?
[19:56:32] <Bavilo> xD
[19:56:35] <zewelor> i think
[19:56:40] <zewelor> if i cant choose a phone
[19:56:43] <zewelor> so wtf
[19:56:48] <Bavilo> hehe
[19:56:57] <Bavilo> Galaxy S2 isn't great either...
[19:56:58] <zewelor> 2 monts more and i will have milestone for 2 years
[19:56:58] <Bavilo> no slider...
[19:57:02] <Bavilo> and it feels very cheap
[19:57:05] <Bavilo> and it's too light.
[19:57:15] <zewelor> i think there is version of sgs s2 with qwerty but for usa
[19:57:20] <Bavilo> ugh.
[19:57:32] <vikas`> captivate slide 4g or something like that
[19:58:03] <Bavilo> ugly.
[19:58:06] <vikas`> but the radio supports 2100 (HSDPA) -- so you could still buy an unlocked one from somewhere
[19:58:29] <Bavilo> still ugly.
[19:58:30] <Bavilo> ^^
[19:58:32] <zewelor> damn metaxa is sooo good
[19:58:50] <Bavilo> that greek stuff?
[19:58:54] <zewelor> yes
[19:58:56] <Bavilo> heh
[19:59:02] <zewelor> very good for me !
[19:59:06] <Bavilo> :)
[19:59:17] <Bavilo> man...does anyone know a site for available phones in europe?
[19:59:39] <zewelor> phones sux !
[19:59:58] <Bavilo> smartphones*
[20:00:07] <zewelor> smartphones sux
[20:00:18] <Bavilo> lol
[20:00:37] <zewelor> only good thing is metaxa !
[20:01:09] <Bavilo> Xperia Ion 1280×720
[20:01:09] <Bavilo> wtf.
[20:01:22] <vikas`> Xperia S too
[20:01:27] <Bavilo> wow
[20:01:33] <Bavilo> no slider though T_T
[20:01:39] <vikas`> can't believe that the Xperia Pro and the Xperia S were designed by the same company
[20:02:46] <Bavilo> maybe I'll have to get a non slider...
[20:02:47] <Bavilo> :(
[20:04:41] <Bavilo> this is sad....T_T
[20:05:24] <zewelor> no
[20:05:52] <zewelor> i also got that black thoughts to buy phone without slider
[20:05:55] <zewelor> but be strong !
[20:06:09] <zewelor> im sure better days will come
[20:06:25] <zewelor> you just need to believe !
[20:06:40] <zewelor> do you think neo would save trinity if he didnt believe ?
[20:06:47] <zewelor> i dont think so ...
[20:06:54] <Bavilo> haha
[20:07:04] <Bavilo> well...I've been waiting 2 years now to get a slider phone...
[20:07:06] <Bavilo> they ALL suck.
[20:07:21] <zewelor> yes but be strong !
[20:07:25] <Bavilo> xD
[20:07:39] <Bavilo> hmm...1GHZ scorpion on the xperia pro...
[20:07:41] <Bavilo> dual core?
[20:07:47] <Bavilo> and is the bootloader locked?
[20:09:26] <vikas`> Bavilo: yes. But SE gives unlock code if you need one
[20:09:44] <Bavilo> really?
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[20:12:15] <vikas`> Yes
[20:12:35] <Bavilo> weird.
[20:12:37] <vikas`> SE has clear policy about it
[20:12:47] <vikas`> but you accept that you void warranty
[20:13:03] <Bavilo> idc about warranty
[20:13:30] <vikas`> same here. Also I don't know what they do with their batteries, SE's battery backup is amazing
[20:13:54] <vikas`> My wife's Xperia Neo V with Wifi on and data off, ran for 4days before it ran out of battery
[20:14:43] <Bavilo> ...
[20:16:00] <Bavilo> is the droid 4 out yet?
[20:16:36] <k1l> nope
[20:16:44] <Bavilo> meh.
[20:16:46] <Bavilo> I give up.
[20:17:27] <Bavilo> nice big display...
[20:17:30] <Bavilo> great cpu...
[20:17:31] <Bavilo> hmm.
[20:17:32] <zewelor> no
[20:17:34] <zewelor> Bavilo:
[20:17:36] <zewelor> nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[20:17:42] <vikas`> right now, best phone is galaxy nexus
[20:17:51] <zewelor> and motorola razr ?
[20:18:22] <Bavilo> razr has no slider?
[20:18:45] <Bavilo> neither does the nexus.
[20:20:15] <Bavilo> so....I guess it will have to be the MS 4...
[20:20:17] <Bavilo> <_<
[20:20:35] <zewelor> :(
[20:20:41] <zewelor> ok so go and buy it
[20:20:45] <zewelor> and send me g1 :D
[20:20:59] <Bavilo> its not out yet! xD
[20:21:05] <vikas`> razr is atleast available in EU/Asia
[20:21:20] <Bavilo> but I really want a keyboard :(
[20:21:50] <Skrilax_CZ> Droid 4 seems good :D
[20:22:06] <vikas`> Bavilo: well, you'll have to wait then :)
[20:22:12] <Skrilax_CZ> and has WCDMA support, so hopefully MS4 will be shown in Barcelona
[20:22:30] <Bavilo> when is it supposed to come out in europe?
[20:22:44] <vikas`> Skrilax_CZ: does it have FF camera?
[20:22:47] <Bavilo> and I don't think about the locked bootloader anymore...screw it...
[20:22:54] <Bavilo> it SHOULD be fast enough either way.
[20:22:59] <Bavilo> yes it does
[20:23:55] <Bavilo> if we can port ics to it...
[20:23:57] <Bavilo> I'll be happy
[20:23:59] <Skrilax_CZ> We don't know if it will be in Europe right now
[20:24:16] <Bavilo> knowing moto, they'll wait 2 years to release ics..
[20:24:29] <Skrilax_CZ> Though I heard something about MS4 being shown in MWC
[20:26:16] <Bavilo> guess I'll need to wait then ...hope it comes to europe.
[20:27:08] <Skrilax_CZ> yeah we have to, although D4 is global
[20:27:12] <Bavilo> emm...is there even a milestone 3 in europe? o.o
[20:27:37] <Bavilo> oh its global....will it be unlockable too? :D
[20:27:40] <Bavilo> like the D1...
[20:27:50] <Skrilax_CZ> No there was no MS3 in Europe
[20:27:58] <Bavilo> crap.
[20:28:18] <Bavilo> I am never going to get a new phone...I can already tell...
[20:28:46] <Skrilax_CZ> Actually that's good: more reason to release MS4 in Europe and not Latin America (which has MS3)
[20:29:27] <Bavilo> ah.
[20:30:41] <Bavilo> hmm...If it doesn't and I were to buy a D4...I'd have to pay additional taxes though :(
[20:32:12] <Skrilax_CZ> yeah ^-^
[20:32:40] <Skrilax_CZ> At least if there was a Chinese version
[20:34:13] <vikas`> it weighs 179g!
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[20:34:29] <vikas`> could've as well named it MOTO-ROCK
[20:34:56] <mioze7ae> Does anyone know where to find info about how to create an update.zip for vulnerable recovery?
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[20:37:19] <mioze7ae> I found something called milestone_root.zip -- it's 31MB but only contains 64K data so I suspect it's carefully adjusted somehow
[20:38:10] <Skrilax_CZ> mioze7ae: what do you need that for? there was an application that created you the payload somewhere, but I don't remember where now :P
[20:39:46] <mioze7ae> You may remember there was a vuln. recovery hack for XT720--it turns out that devtree.img is a problem.
[20:40:19] <mioze7ae> devtree is used by both boot.img and recovery.img, but boot.img is more robust.
[20:40:34] <mioze7ae> If you mismatch devtree/recovery you get no boot
[20:40:56] <mioze7ae> If you mismatch devtree/boot then it boots but sensors are weird
[20:41:35] <mioze7ae> We want the custom sbf because it repartitions data/cache/system to give bigger data
[20:42:06] <mioze7ae> Anyway, I'm trying to simplify the process by creating update.zip that installs the orbootstrap directly
[20:43:08] <mioze7ae> The process is: flash the vuln. recovery, install orbootstrap, flash back the original devtree/recovery.
[20:44:04] <mioze7ae> Unfortunately if you only restore devtree, stock recovery gets broken.
[20:45:39] <mioze7ae> Basically we're walking the system between cdt tables.
[20:46:57] <mioze7ae> Anyway the core of the problem is that devtree is different between Motoroi XT720 and Milestone XT720
[20:47:55] <mioze7ae> Skrilax_CZ: is that app milestone specific or did it come from droid1?
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[20:54:47] <nadlabak> mioze7ae: lot's of collected info has been lost by that infamous end of alldroid.org forum
[20:58:41] <[mbm]> mioze7ae: what specifically was it about the devtree?
[20:59:28] <mioze7ae> The vunlerable recovery comes from Motoroi (which has subtle hardware differences)
[20:59:46] <mioze7ae> If you don't have Motoroi's devtree, the recovery won't boot.
[21:00:10] <mioze7ae> Ack surprise meeting... to be continued
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[21:00:43] <[mbm]> yes, but I was curious which devtree entry changed
[21:01:39] <mioze7ae> Just from strings there were a bunch. The biggest problem was that the screen always rotated wrong by 90 deg.
[21:02:11] <mioze7ae> We could fix that on gingerbread, but it was getting difficult on froyo
[21:02:29] <mioze7ae> But flashing the devtree back fixed the sensors
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[21:29:38] <mib_force> nadlabak: touchscreen feels a bit weird
[21:29:50] <mib_force> and for some strange reason, i can't find whatsapp in the market
[21:30:03] <mib_force> overall it makes a very good picture
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[21:32:46] <Skrilax_CZ> uff, so there is vulnerable recovery on Korean Motoroi available? I thought it wasn't
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[21:41:22] <mib_force> Skrilax_CZ: what you think about my idea?
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[21:47:37] <zewelor> Bavilo: u need to install libpcap not libpcap-dev as u want to run binary ? not compile it on g1 ? u wont be able to compile on g1
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[22:00:10] <Skrilax_CZ> mib_force: I don't understand the motivation for you to do that
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[22:01:42] <Bavilo> zewelor: yes
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[22:09:17] <mib_force> Skrilax_CZ: call it "completeness"
[22:13:12] <Skrilax_CZ> mib_force: the app sbdy wrote for payload was generic
[22:13:14] <Skrilax_CZ> however
[22:14:09] <mib_force> Skrilax_CZ: for payload?
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[22:14:32] <Skrilax_CZ> yeah
[22:14:39] <mib_force> don't get ya
[22:15:34] <Skrilax_CZ> long story
[22:15:35] <Skrilax_CZ> :p
[22:15:53] <mib_force> still not getting you :)
[22:16:02] <Skrilax_CZ> it will simply generate the "custom" update zip file, with limit to 64 kB
[22:16:24] <mib_force> ok - what are we talking about here?
[22:16:39] <Skrilax_CZ> about the update.zip generation for vulnerable recovery
[22:16:47] <mib_force> i was never talking about that
[22:16:52] <Skrilax_CZ> ah
[22:16:56] <mib_force> i was talking about archiving all xoom sbfs
[22:17:01] <mib_force> since i mirror the stuff
[22:17:08] <Skrilax_CZ> oh xD
[22:17:22] <Skrilax_CZ> I mistook you for mioze7ae
[22:17:22] <mioze7ae> Skrilax_CZ: yes there's one available, I can't find the original sbf though
[22:17:22] <mib_force> i thought u were talking about whatsapp
[22:17:36] <mib_force> Skrilax_CZ: so... archive xoom sbf?
[22:17:48] <Skrilax_CZ> could do that, k
[22:17:51] <mib_force> thanks :)
[22:18:18] <Skrilax_CZ> 3.1 + 3.2.x fws?
[22:18:30] <mib_force> ALL :)
[22:18:54] <Skrilax_CZ> point to store 3.0?
[22:19:37] <Skrilax_CZ> mioze7ae: I don't understand the motivation for you to do that with the devtree
[22:19:53] <mib_force> [22:09:19] <mib_force> Skrilax_CZ: call it "completeness"
[22:19:54] <mib_force> :)
[22:19:59] <mib_force> maybe now u get it :)
[22:20:39] <mioze7ae> Skrilax_CZ: Motoroi doesn't have same sensor hardware. So if you use Motoroi kernel on Milestone XT720 hardware, sensors don't work.
[22:21:11] <Skrilax_CZ> mib_force: nah thats just wasting space :P
[22:21:18] <mioze7ae> The reason to do anything is because Motoroi got repartitioned for froyo (/data went from ~170MB to ~260MB)
[22:21:44] <mib_force> Skrilax_CZ: oke :)
[22:22:31] <Skrilax_CZ> mioze7ae: I see, but what vulnerable recovery has to do with that?
[22:22:58] <mioze7ae> But to convert Milestone to the new cdt directly with the correct kernel, the system becomes unbootable. So you have to rescue via vulnerable recovery and add the orbootstrap.
[22:23:35] <mioze7ae> So you use vulnerable recovery to fix add the orbootstrap
[22:24:59] <mioze7ae> Basically: step 1 -- flash new cdt,system,data,cache,devtree,recovery
[22:25:20] <mioze7ae> at this point the system won't boot normally, but you can get to stock recovery and use update.zip
[22:25:21] <Skrilax_CZ> on xt720 you can boot kernel from fastboot, right?
[22:25:28] <Skrilax_CZ> *unsigned kernel
[22:25:32] <mioze7ae> yes
[22:25:42] <Skrilax_CZ> then boot it via fastboot
[22:26:04] <mioze7ae> I didn't think of that--recovery via fastboot
[22:26:08] <Skrilax_CZ> and I myself don't remember that xt720 would have vulnerable recovery btw.
[22:26:31] <mioze7ae> No, this 100% works. I'm just trying to simplify the process for others
[22:26:45] <Skrilax_CZ> ok, well fastboot will be a lot easier
[22:27:23] <mioze7ae> yeah, I hadn't thought of putting a recovery into fastboot
[22:27:35] <mioze7ae> That's actually better
[22:28:16] <mioze7ae> I think then maybe all you would have to flash is CG31...
[22:28:59] <mioze7ae> Good idea!
[22:29:25] <Skrilax_CZ> :)
[22:31:26] <mioze7ae> Wait, that won't work. You have to have a booted system to enter fastboot.
[22:31:45] <Luxxi> xD
[22:32:03] <mioze7ae> So after flashing cdt, you'd be stuck again. That's why we have to flash a vulnerable recovery.
[22:34:08] <mioze7ae> The only boot modes I know of on XT720 from poweroff is normal boot, recovery and non-fastboot bootloader. We get fastboot bootloader by "reboot bootloader" after booted.
[22:34:36] <Skrilax_CZ> boot to system; create a kernel module to add cdt partition; flash it from being booted from system; reboot to fastboot
[22:35:33] <Skrilax_CZ> mioze7ae: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/everest/list.php
[22:36:40] <Skrilax_CZ> damn ssh to droid-dev lags badly
[22:36:43] <mioze7ae> Well, I could probably purge the system/cache/data partitions and reinstall the orbootstrap at that point, too...
[22:37:47] <mioze7ae> I was trying to update mtd-hack.ko for XT720, but the numbers make no sense to me. The kernel command line doesn't match the cdt table as decoded by sbf_flash.
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[22:39:57] <Skrilax_CZ> * mib_force: (for the xoom sbf list)
[22:40:12] <Skrilax_CZ> mioze7ae: check recovery command line
[22:40:36] <mioze7ae> I found out the command line actually comes from the cdt table.
[22:40:55] <mioze7ae> It's at the end of CG31
[22:41:15] <Skrilax_CZ> yes, but it can be overriden in the images for boot / recovery
[22:41:23] <Skrilax_CZ> and this is used only in recovery
[22:41:34] <mioze7ae> Oh, I'll check thanks!
[22:55:53] <mioze7ae> Has anyone figured out where in the boot chain the CDT is verified?
[22:57:47] <[mbm]> the sbf_flash output should match the cdt other than the base address
[22:58:26] <[mbm]> flash tends to start at 0xc0000000 of you look at an sbf
[22:59:05] <[mbm]> cdt and mtdparts use a 0x0 base
[23:00:25] <mioze7ae> [mbm]: The math of partition sizes didn't match. Meaning the difference in start addresses for two CG's (I was checking /pds) was smaller than the commandline parameter for pds.
[23:01:17] <mioze7ae> i.e. not the start-end of the same CG but from start to start of next CG
[23:01:35] <[mbm]> well, an sbf doesn't need to overwrite the entire space allocated to a cg
[23:02:43] <mioze7ae> No, but the distance from start of one CG to the start of the next CG should be smaller than the size of the first CG as told to the kernel?
[23:03:47] <[mbm]> hmm?
[23:04:27] <mioze7ae> i.e. if CG01 starts at 1MB and CG02 starts at 9MB, the kernel shouldn't be told that CG01 is 12MB, right?
[23:04:57] <mioze7ae> So, I wasn't trusting the numbers.
[23:06:06] <mioze7ae> I got (sorted by start address)
[23:06:20] <mioze7ae> 0xD0231000-0xD03BCFFF pds
[23:06:26] <mioze7ae> 0xD077A000-0xD07DCFFF misc
[23:06:33] <[mbm]> suppose you allocate 16M for a boot; the boot.img doesn't actually need to be 16M it might only be 10M and you end up with 6M pf dead flash space after
[23:06:41] <mioze7ae> but the kernel command line is 1536k@2176k(pds)
[23:06:52] <[mbm]> you still tell the kernel 16M
[23:07:09] <mioze7ae> Yes, but you don't tell it a number that's larger
[23:08:23] <[mbm]> ideally you don't
[23:08:55] <[mbm]> but because there are no actual boundaries you can cheat somewhat
[23:10:06] <mioze7ae> Ok. Well I couldn't figure out what to plug into mtd-hack.c, so I'll check the recovery command line.
[23:10:44] <[mbm]> mtd-hack is pretty much just appending to mtdparts
[23:11:15] <[mbm]> you can specify any offset/size you want and it'll show up as an mtd
[23:11:23] <[mbm]> even if it overlaps
[23:11:49] <[mbm]> usually I just create an all encompasing mtd of the entire flash
[23:13:22] <[mbm]> also what you said earlier about the commandline in cdt isn't entirely accurate
[23:13:45] <[mbm]> you're actually seeing an atags struct
[23:14:06] <[mbm]> which hap-ens to contain a tag for the commandline
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