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[03:49:27] <mioze7ae> nadlabak: how much free space do you target on /system for odex builds?
[03:49:44] <mioze7ae> 10-15mb enough?
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[21:10:31] <Epsylon3> hmm i dont understand why this 2ndboot is so complicated
[21:10:47] <Epsylon3> a kernel can be decompressed itself, its code
[21:11:22] <Epsylon3> and machine is already running, so there is no bootloader to load
[21:12:48] <xvilka> it was from ancient times. from Egypt :)
[21:13:00] <xvilka> s/was/is
[21:13:31] <Epsylon3> yea :p from windows CE ? :p
[21:14:46] <[mbm]> Epsylon3: the difficulty comes from poorly written drivers that assu,e the machine was just powered on and get errors sending commands to already initialized hardware
[21:15:25] <[mbm]> in some cases those drivers will completely take down the system
[21:25:18] <xvilka> e.g. it contain UART init too, etc
[21:25:55] <xvilka> btw, 2ndboot should be more complex to do full system shutdown/restart
[21:26:13] <xvilka> but it need more time to write this
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[21:32:51] <[mbm]> yep, kexec code acrually goes through all the driver shutdown and tries to reset things properly
[21:33:25] <[mbm]> but that creates yet more problems
[21:35:11] <xvilka> yes, that require kernel patching
[21:44:07] <kholk> also, some things cannot be repowered up because of the HS nature
[21:44:16] <kholk> or reinitialized.
[21:56:54] <Epsylon3> yep, and lot of drivers doesnt have "unregister" in moto kernels
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[21:57:21] <kholk> on RAZR there are a lot of unregister
[21:57:39] <kholk> but they can't be reinitialized after booting a new kernel....if you unregister them :)
[21:58:14] <Epsylon3> there is not so much chips on the defy :p
[21:58:20] <Epsylon3> unlike the razr :^p
[21:58:36] <kholk> LoL :)
[21:58:44] <kholk> Defy has got the Wrigley3G anyway
[21:58:59] <kholk> so like the Milestone, the modem won't work even if you get to boot the unsigned kernel :P
[22:00:17] <Epsylon3> i got kexec working on the kaiser a long time ago
[22:00:24] <Epsylon3> htc msm
[22:00:40] <Epsylon3> most problems are the dma
[22:00:56] <Epsylon3> and for us maybe the sgx dma
[22:02:42] <Epsylon3> i first need to get the uart working without that
[22:02:51] <Epsylon3> (also on atrix)
[22:03:01] <Epsylon3> even with an unlocked kernel, its not enough
[22:03:29] <Epsylon3> there is a moto hal on nvidia stuff
[22:03:43] <Epsylon3> unportable to 2.6.36 or 39 for the moment
[22:04:23] <kholk> unportable?
[22:04:23] <kholk> hah
[22:04:30] <kholk> everything can be ported ;)
[22:04:31] <Epsylon3> yea, no debug logs
[22:04:37] <Epsylon3> that doesnt help
[22:04:45] <kholk> mmh, yup... difficult...
[22:04:46] <Epsylon3> serial is locked by the bootloader
[22:04:55] <kholk> obvious
[22:05:11] <Epsylon3> incredible...
[22:05:39] <Epsylon3> and the framebuffer is also locked in moto kernel, but i made a patch for that
[22:05:41] <Epsylon3> :p
[22:05:57] <Epsylon3> that mean you cannot use the recovery ui (bootmenu) in normal mode
[22:06:52] <Epsylon3> but its nice, that help to have a second device on 2.6.32
[22:06:53] <Epsylon3> :p
[22:07:06] <Epsylon3> except its not omap
[22:12:11] <Epsylon3> http://epsy.ath.cx:888/lxr/source/include/linux/mfd/wl1273-core.h?v=omap3-3.0;_dir=/drivers/media/radio/;_file=linux/mfd/wl1273-core.h
[22:12:19] <Epsylon3> this stuff sounds interresting :p
[22:12:37] <Epsylon3> ps: 1273 fm = 1271 fm
[22:14:05] <kholk> lol why?
[22:14:16] <Epsylon3> Some definitions for the wl1273 radio receiver/transmitter chip.
[22:14:22] <Epsylon3> transmitter
[22:15:14] <Epsylon3> but i dont understand how its controlled actually, in libaudio and fm service
[22:15:21] <Epsylon3> i dont think its i2c
[22:15:50] <Epsylon3> Initially only I2C communication has been
[22:15:51] <Epsylon3> implemented but UART can also be used.
[22:15:54] <Epsylon3> https://gitorious.org/wl1273-fm-driver/wl1273-fm-driver/commit/a562941997bee6d23a866a6a3e108d1f6c956769/diffs
[22:19:41] <kholk> it should communicate via UART...
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